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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Itawamba, MS is full of 5 year olds  Reply with quote  

Nimdae
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I'm sure many of you recognize this city being in the news recently. It's the city with the high school that cancelled a prom because a lesbian wanted to bring her girlfriend. The ACLU won the fight there and the school was forced to invite the girl to prom. However, they're back in the news.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/04/05/ACLU_Investigating_Fake_Prom/

All I can think about is a bunch of 5 year olds making that decision. I hope the ACLU pounds them hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

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What exactly are they going to do about? The school gave them the prom and that released them from any liablility. You cant go after the parents who can just say this was a private party.

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Cerrawan wrote:
What exactly are they going to do about? The school gave them the prom and that released them from any liablility. You cant go after the parents who can just say this was a private party.


I hope you are joking and not really that ignorant.
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Sorry for the language, but it's things like this that really piss me off. It's basically segregation in a different aspect - lifestyle instead of race. Personally, I believe hardcore religious school board representatives are the main cause of this, which makes me come to think "whatever happened to separation of church and state?" It's also quite offensive to me because I'm a lesbian. Of course, I didn't face something this derogatory in my past because of my orientation, but I was still ridiculed because of it by stuck-up assholes who seem to think we aren't as every bit of human as they are. I hate people, I really do.
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Sad ppl like this need to stop living in the dark ages
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Not that I was ever particularly out in high school but it's because of stuff like this that I didn't even go to my proms simply because there was no way I'd be able to get the same kind of experience.

Hopefully one day similar folks will be able to enjoy these events in the regard in which it's meant. How magical would that be /sigh
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actually the judges ruled that she would be invited to that private one that the parents were planning the school never held their prom it was all parent organized (PTA im guessing lol) but these things just piss me off. i cant wait til those laws go in place
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Nimdae wrote:
Cerrawan wrote:
What exactly are they going to do about? The school gave them the prom and that released them from any liablility. You cant go after the parents who can just say this was a private party.


I hope you are joking and not really that ignorant.


He is right though. If it's a private party there's nothing that the government can do. It's similar to how segregation has been banned for ages, but there are still country clubs that don't allow blacks (or Jews).


It's not a legally valid excuse but many straight students or their parents will say that having a homosexual couple there ruins their prom experience. This is the kind of emotional response that you are going to be fighting for a long time. People will have to be all right with gay and lesbian couples internally before you'll see this kind of discrimination go away. Regardless of what the law says. It will take decades for this to happen.

One thing that the LGBT community can do to hasten the process is to market themselves better. Everyone should feel free to act how they want to, but you have to understand that as you get away from society's norms you will lose a lot of support. Put a man on arguing for LGBT rights, and he's camping and lispy, people will be immediately turned off. Have the homosexual equivalent of Joe Everyman, let him be well-spoken and cogent, and people will begin to listen to your plight.

Us African-Americans had the exact same problem in the past, so I mean you no disrespect. We had people representing us like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. These guys look and act like street preachers or pimps. Then along comes Obama, a guy who is Ivy League, well-spoken and polished, and America elects him president by a wide margin over a white man. It will eventually happen for you too.

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So you think a school function that is sponsored by others should be able to be exclusive, even if morally wrong? No matter the sponsor, host, etc, it was a school function.
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The issue isn't that some of the parents got together and threw a private party. They have every right to throw a private party and invite whoever they want.

The issue is that Constance and other kids deemed misfits from the area were deliberately misled and sent to a fake prom. The whole purpose was to exclude and humiliate them. And that is never okay.

Those parents, and anyone who attended the private prom knowing what else was going on with the fake prom should be ashamed of themselves. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior.

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They won't feel shame. They feel justified in their actions because those people are abominations. This is a victory in their fight.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Ceres
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If the "fake prom" was supported by the school and the "real prom" was put on by private individuals, then there's nothing to be done about it. And yes, I doubt those parents will feel any shame. They believe that they are protecting their children from immorality and perversion.

And anyway, these kind of victories are short-lived. In a generation you won't see this kind of hate nearly as much. It will be as taboo as any kind of discrimination.

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Photo collage from the "real" prom. Ahem. (allegedly)
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LOL is that for real?

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I've seen that picture in the upper-right of the collage before, several months ago, so it's not real sadly. But that picture is a fantastic example of beer goggles, if you see the entire thing.
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